Looptalk November, 2001

Imageline Fruityloops, before FL Studio

Why Music?

MBlaze wrote :
Why music? well for starters..
Music is a way to ESCAPE _____. (Fill in the blank)
Music is a way to ENTER _____. (Fill in the blank)

dim13 wrote :
Music is a way to express (and enjoy) creativity. I consider it a form of art

Vlad Ivanov wrote :
I consider it a form of art.
It seems like you just invented a wheel.
mu·sic (myzk)
n.
The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.
[Middle English, from Old French musique, from Latin msica, from Greek mousik (tekhn), (art) of the Muses

warrenBONES wrote :
… because i’m not allowed to kill people.

almightybob409 wrote :
There are two types of universal communication;
Numbers and Music. Music is much more carthartic than Numbers. Music is one of the few “proofs” of God’s existance. When explained by a “science” music has no value, but you no very well the value it has in your own life. When you can be taken to an entirely different state of mind by the right sequence of sound. Music is the Language of Divinity.
-God Bless It-

Super_edo wrote :
When explained by a science music has no value, but you no very well the value it has in your own life.
Not exactly true. The reason most music (excluding the intentionally atonal and arrhythmic crap) sounds good to us has a lot to do with numbers with regards to both rhythm and the reason certain combinations of frequencies sound pleasing to our ears. Music and math have more in common than you seem to think. There is an order and regularity to most music that can be partially explained by science.
But not entirely, of course.

J Bravo wrote :
The reason most music (excluding the intentionally atonal and arrhythmic crap) sounds good to us has a lot to do with numbers with regards to both rhythm and the reason certain combinations of frequencies sound pleasing to our ears. Music and math have more in common than you seem to think. There is an order and regularity to most music that can be partially explained by science.
I take your point, but this aspect is only a microscopic part of the reason why music affects people. In these modern times we have this convention of scientific reductionism, ie. that every phenomenon can be broken down and accounted for by the physical laws that we so far understand….. But, the feelings produced by listening to music are qualitative, and not quantitative, and so can’t be described in scientific terms. It’s like psychologists saying that consciousness is merely an illusion…. if that’s true, how come I’m actually aware of it? This probably all sounds a bit pretentious but it’s something that I find myself thinking about quite a lot, and I think as a society and a culture, we completely ignore a lot of the meaningful and profound aspects of life because they defy simple description by scientific methods……

please discuss

I could go on and on, but I’ll spare you…. for now!

Pete wrote :

Music is the language of the spirit. It is one of those things that we all understand and experience at a different level, quite apart from language, social and cultural influence. All of these “learned” things influence music and may be received by our conscious selves, but what lies under is firmly in the realm of the spirit.

Music transports me to a much lovlier place and transforms me into a much higher being. That is why I listen.

Boy wrote :

music is an expression of feeling by the artist, and sometimes i’m feeling the same way the artist was feeling when he wrote that piece of music, and the music brings that feeling out. i also listen to music for the memories….it’s like a time machine sometimes…

ates wrote :

I listen to music for fun and so my music can someday rule the world with an iron fist

Falk wrote :

cause we are alive, simple not.

SY
Falk

Mr Hell wrote :

. Why.mp3 [202kb]

Didge wrote :

Because it beats listening to the Girlfriend, and it usually makes more sense.

The Dude wrote :

music is the way to say how you feel without using any words

lowroller wrote : !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT,S GOOD AND MAKES YOU THINK ABOUT STUFF AND IT CHANGES YOUR LIFE FOR THE BETTER.Also helps me channel my emotions better. Natural Healer for me! Very good for the soul. Lots of natural magic in music i reckons,and i find myself naturaly drawn to it.Cool!

fuego96 wrote :

Food for my soul.

Bonanno wrote :

In the kind of shallow worrld we live in….For me….To listen to ones music is a way to see(if the music is (felt) by the one doing it) a way to see and feel what that person (has) in his/her soul….In today’s world you cant really bluntly say whats in you (soul)/(emotions) I can usually feel when someone made a tune and was totally disconnected from his/her soul and just pushing buttons and sequencing stuff….Maybe thats why some (techno) stuff dont get to me at all ;)How many of (us) ppl who can (listen) to music (absorb) it can say they dont know what I mean? I mean….Ever listened to some guitar/sax/violin/piano or whatever solo instrument and really get chills from it from the sheer invisible energy it dishes out? I know I do sometimes! THATS why I listen to music!

Tom Walden wrote :

Because I like to tune in to what the Divine has to say.

mouse wrote :

it depends.
usually to have an attitude adjustment
quiet music to relax
funky to groove to
fast to dance to
live ska to go off
(dec 9 tathra hotel The Porkers be there!)

Mr Smug wrote :

-to express ideas I don’t yet have the words to convey
-to understand someone without getting confused by language
-catharsis
-fun

lasm wrote :

Because it’s fun!

b.chad.v.0.9.release.763. wrote :

w h e n i h e a r m u s i c – n o t : p o p , r o c k ( p o p ) , c o u n t r y ( p o p ) , r a p ( p o p ) – t h a t a l l r e m i n d s m e o f r e a l l i f e – i f e e l p o w e r . i c a n f e e l r i g h t . g o o d . t h e c o n f u s i o n i s g o n e . f o r a w h i l e . t h e b u z z y c r a c k l i n g t h o u g h t s o f b i l l s , b o s s , p . r . , p r o p e r c o m m u n i c a t i o n , l o o k i n g / s t a y i n g b u s y , a l l t h e d a i l y b u l l s h i t g e t s l o s t f r o m t i m e t o t i m e .

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cheers!

m u s i c – j u n g l e , b e a t z , h i p – h o p , e x p e r i m e n t a l , e x t r a – t e r r e s t r i a l , d u b i e – d u b , r u b a d u b , b u t t – p l u g !

b.chad.v.0.9.release.763. wrote :

i t f o o l s m y b r a i n i n t o b e i n g c o n t e n t w h e n i a m r e a l l y n o t .
p e a c e .

b.chad.v.0.9.release.763. wrote :

sorry about that. tools that don’t like messageboards, at least it wasnt randomized:)

my point of that mess was that when i listen to music, my (mind) feels fine, good, happy, content, whatever. so (almost) no matter how it’s (my environment) is going, i feel okay.

cheers!

miggs wrote :

what da fuck else is there to do?

_steve wrote :

to silence the neurotic music inside my head

_steve wrote :

i was serious, you know… i have a constant flow of very strange music flowing through my head. but most of it is unintelligable (definitely not useable in my own music) and it gets very annoying. to me, external music’s most useful purpose is to get rid of this for a while, to drown it all out.

DanRoberts wrote :

LOL … kinda reminds me of the movie “Scanners” … 🙂

_steve wrote :

…try to justify the logic

ok, my logic is as follows:

my (probably subconscious) mind is constantly composing music no matter what im doing. im sure everyone here has this to a point. however i have the mind of a composer thats done too much acid. this music is very irritating and weird, and does not help my composing at all, in fact inhibits it. if anyone heard it (if that was possible), they probably wouldnt even recognize it as music

the only way it becomes bearable is if i play something else which is organized in a way interesting to my mind. because my mind has something else other than itself to focus on musically, the music inside is silenced.

of course that isnt the only reason i listen to music.. i enjoy its structure and melodys, and the emotions it conveys. but i listen to music so much because it keeps my mind on track.

_steve wrote :

sorry.. im an bipolar ex-acidhead with pefs and no concentration. its hard to understand me sometimes. but im not lying to ya, grey.

WHY DO YOU LISTEN TO MUSIC?

i repeat my orignal answer with some modifications to make it clearer to you:

i listen to the organized harmonic patterns of air pressure known by humans as ‘music’. i listen not just because i appreciate its melody and structure and its emotional control over its listener, but because it silences the annoying unintelligable and uncontrollable ‘music’ which my subconscious mind produces every waking moment of my day. it is very possible that this mentally produced randomness is, in fact, not music, and is in fact a strange hallucination, but my mind interprets it as such. if i am subjected, externally, to ‘music’, especially that which i find pleasing, i am able to focus on it, and the ‘music’ inside my head goes away, allowing me to retain some amount of sanity.

if this doesnt answer your questions about my answer then your question cannot properly be answered by me, as i do not completely understand this disorder/ability/normality myself.

because it’s there
because i work in an office
because people are loud and frustrating, and the stuff coming out of my headphones is glorious

Demetrius wrote :

I see music in a strange sort of pattern….kind of like a wave form…when I hear a song, my mind automatically arranges the entire song in the pattern and I can hear it the entire song at anytime. Some music creates nice patterns, some not. Classical for instance….say the music from the original Star Wars movie…I can see in my mind the entire score….if I sit and listen to it, I know every part of the whole 2 album set.
I listen because I like the patterns…or arrangements of certain notes with other notes…the way they progress and build off each other. The instruments.

maybe similar to steve, although I don’t listen to drown out my own music…I use others music to enhance my own ideas (rarely works…LOL)
Steve, you should make one song with all this warped acid stuff you talk about and let everyone critique it, who knows you may start a new fad like Bill and Ted.
🙂

J Bravo wrote :

I see music in a strange sort of pattern….kind of like a wave form…when I hear a song, my mind automatically arranges the entire song in the pattern and I can hear it the entire song at anytime. Some music creates nice patterns, some not. Classical for instance….say the music from the original Star Wars movie…I can see in my mind the entire score….if I sit and listen to it, I know every part of the whole 2 album set.

so why don’t you just get the sheet music and look at that without listening to anything? I’m sure it wouldn’t be the same, which begs the question: what else is there apart from what you mentioned that makes music pleasurable? I think that’s what we’re trying to get at here……..

_steve wrote :

Steve, you should make one song with all this warped acid stuff you talk about and let everyone critique it

re-creating the music in my head is way beyond my abilities. i wish i could, cause i have some really great ideas
Its beautiful (and rare) when somebody can start a nice long thread which isnt based on a flame, or which isnt immediately interpreted as a flame

piranha wrote :

its beautiful (and rare) when somebody can start a nice long thread which isnt based on a flame, or which isnt immediately interpreted as a flame

I listen to music for the same reasons I look at paintings and sculptures, read poetry, see plays or movies, or go to strip clubs. All art conveys a thought or emotion that the artist expresses through that particular medium. The message that we take from the art may or may not be what the artist originally intended to communicate, yet we have constructed that message based on all of our life experiences & who we are. We all have an intrinsic need to communicate. Communication takes two forms – expression (output) & interpretation (input). Our minds NEED that input to constantly shape who we are.

Why do I listen to music? Because I have to!